By RBrown

January 20, 2010 1:17 PM | Link to this

I have known George Argue for 46 years. I have seen many sides of him. I have known him in high school. in college, and in business. I knew his mother and his father. I have known he and his family to be one thing….’hard workers’. I don’t know why there are those who post ‘nasty’ and ‘hateful’ emails, but I am sure there is a reason. I know this…this nation has gone through a difficult several years. I have seen companies close their doors and I have seen companies go bankrupt….companies that many felt were immune to collapse. I have witnessed the struggle of small business owners, trying to do something with nothing, trying to do the impossible. I have known George many years. I am certain he was doing what he thought he had to do, to keep Madisons afloat. Sometimes, we all reach to far. Sometimes, we fail to let go! Sometimes, it is hard to say I quit!Pride is hurtful. I know a great deal about all of this as I too made similar mistakes. The bloggers who write with such vengence should know that no one is immune from the trials of failing.If GM could fail and do what they did to their employees, any small business could do the same. One thing I have learned is that true hardworking men and women know how to get up when they get knocked down.Lessons are learned in losing!One thing that enables those who get up from being knocked down is that fact that this great nation loves giving people a ‘second chance’.The Argues will survive this and ‘push’ on! They are workers who may have made some mistakes. I don’t know many who haven’t. Compassion is something we should all embrace. There is great healing in forgiveness! George Argue was my friend 46 years ago and he is still my friend today. Life is full of ‘potholes’. I am certain George will climb from this one!

By bellbandmom

January 20, 2010 9:49 AM | Link to this

To Enough: I have no knowledge whether what Harriet told me was true or not but I suspect the story was embellished. The point was true or not, as an owner speaking to a patron, she was unprofessional in her response to me and going into the level of detail that she did, especially when I told her how fond I was of this employee. To Nana K - as a Mother myself, I can only pray that your daughter find a good job somewhere and puts this behind her. How awful. These people were criminals and it is quite obvious from the posts that they just simply were not nice people. I gave them a LOT of business and even told all of my friends about Madison’s. BTW, I ate at Amelia’s for the first time the other day and I have found a GREAT new place to enjoy wine and good food and entertainment.

By Nancy M.

January 19, 2010 10:50 PM | Link to this

I am amazed that people thought the food at Madison’s good—inconsistent at best. I agree with the comments—if George was having a bad day—stay out of the way—all about his mood, inconsistent like the food. Harriet needed to clean up her mouth and her attitude at every venue—I have seen her forget peoples names she should know, and more importantly not extend common courtesy to octogenarians—she is embarassing. My husband who never says a bad word about anyone won’t go near these 2—just gets a bad vibe. I am sorry if anyone cannot earn a livelihood, but maybe one needs to look inside their heart and listen—this is about more than taxes. Nancy

By debbielaw

January 19, 2010 3:16 PM | Link to this

I have been thinking about this and this is it. Every bar, restaurant, club knows if you loose your licensee it is over for you. To operate with out one makes you a bootlegger. The fact your in a fancy area and enjoy a high social status does not work. And to say it is on appeal as if that is something means nothing. They knew this how could they not have known? I wish them no ill will and nothing but the best as they sort out of this mess.

By Mo

January 19, 2010 1:45 PM | Link to this

To: foodieiam - The proper tense is “I saw him at Amelia’s”, not “I seen him.” Half of this town says “I seen” no wonder everyone thinks Dayton is full of hillbillies. Oh yeah, you should pay your taxes if you want to stay in business.

By MR Z?

January 19, 2010 1:45 PM | Link to this

THE TRUTH WILL BE QUIETED. THEY AND THE ONES THAT BACK THEM WILL DO ALL THAT THEY CAN TO MAKE THEM LOOK GOOD. IF ALL THE PEOPLE THEY HAVE DONE WRONG OVER THE YEARS CAME FORWARD THERE WOULD BE A STADIUM OF PEOPLE. HOPEFULLY YOU WILL SEE THEM FOR WHAT THEY REALLY ARE NOW. TO ALL THAT THINK THEY ARE GOOD PEOPLE (I BET YOU FEEL STUPID) LETS NOT FORGET THE GREATEST TRICK THE DEVIL EVER PLAYED WAS PRETENDING HE DIDNT EXIST..

By Nana K

January 19, 2010 1:33 PM | Link to this

I do not often get involved in these posts and this is the first comment I have made, but this whole story with Madison’s hits close to home. I have read through the posts and I do not know George & Harriett, but I do know that they knowingly write payroll checks to their employees that are bad - because I have one in my hands right now that was bounced on our daughter - returned for NSF. Our daughter has worked in their kitchen since earlier this summer and worked hard throughout the holidays when they had lots of business and parties and cash coming in and now she is left with bounced check fee’s and nothing to show for all of those hours worked - let alone the paycheck she was due to receive today for work since the end of December and now having to find a new job. She is trying to balance work and school and raise a child on her own - she didn’t need to have people that she trusted to do this to her and neither do any of the other employees. So George and Harriett if you are brave enough to be following the comments here and you have a shred of decency I challenge you to contact her and your other employees and make good on your promise to pay - otherwise you are nothing more than unethical and deceitful business people. Quit thinking of only yourselves and think about how hard this is on your staff and do the right thing for them.

By To tell the Truth

January 19, 2010 10:42 AM | Link to this

To Enough… I have been trying to stay out of this but your comment has made me decide to add my two cents. You say these people are ethcial? Is knowingly operating your business without a liquor license ethical? Is not paying your state taxes (money you have collected from your patrons) ethical? Is lying to a State Agent ethical? Maybe you should check your ethics.

By ENOUGH

January 19, 2010 10:10 AM | Link to this

Take this blog off I have heard enough from all these hateful, unhapppy and self serving people who have written so many awful and untrue things! You are all sick and need to mind you own stores! You all know who you are! Every day people sin and we are not here to judge others!Those of us who know the Argue’s know better…….I have worked for them for years (12)and never saw anything but compassionate, hard working and ethical people who tried to keep a business open not for “just themselves but for their employees and the community”……All the past employees who have bad things to say are the ones who did bad things……like drink on the job, steal, hit the Argues car while driving their van after drinking on the job (oh and who never got fired but was given another chance to get help) and so forth! I saw so much in my twelve years with them and believe me they are wonderful people. I pray that things will work out for all of us!

By bubba

January 18, 2010 9:36 PM | Link to this

Oh and by the way Blessings, I wish you well and your business and I am glad you choose Dayton to start your business. BUT you must not know the owners of Madison like most Dayton area folks. They have owed several thousands of $$ to several people and they have had several failed business in this area. Any one remember the mess they left downtown(old Thomatos) how about Books and Company or Heatherwood Golf Course in Sprinboro. Granted their food was excellent where ever the where some of the best caterers but think of the laws that were broke and the poor employees that might have to pay those taxes. Bad economy is one thing but they sold liquor for over a year without a permit because they were already behind in taxes..if you cant pay the taxes then you must make the hard decision to shut it down not continue to break the law.

By bubba

January 18, 2010 9:22 PM | Link to this

So well written bellbandmom, as some who did business with them everything you said about the way the owners talked about Rick is the same way they talked about all thier former employees. Ask many of them and they will tell you they left because they were not being paid or asked to sell alchool illegaly. Madisons was or is a beautiful resturant with great food, but they were blantly breaking the law and most competitors and suppliers knew this since the day their license was cancelled. Beer distribuors recieve notice of suspension and or cancelaton from state when it happens. Those small(out of town) distributors that continued to do business with them no doubt will be in trouble as well, some have even adveristed their wine tasting and dinners. Also any wine or beer bought at a retail store and resold is a violation of Ohio Liquor Laws,the owners have been in business a long time and know the law.Good luck to all the employees I am sure they will find work.

By bellbandmom

January 18, 2010 4:19 PM | Link to this

Madison’s was one of my favorite independents and the food was excellent. I also agree that the owners have been present many times when I have been there and they can be pretty stand-offish but that being said, I did not go there to mingle with the owners. I went for the food and neighborhood atomosphere. I will say I also loved the bartender that used to be there “Rick” and on my last visit there (around Christmas), I inquired about him only to be told by Harriet that she fired him because he was an alcoholic. First, the comment by the owner was unprofessional and out of line and secondly, I had sat at the bar many times and had Rick wait on me and he was always pleasant, excellent at bartending and never seemed to be inebriated. Harriet told me he drank on the job which is why she let him go. I don’t believe it and it upset me that she went into that level of detail. I will miss the place but I do frequent many other independents in the area. I would love to know where Rick is working now. I also feel sorry for all of the employees there in these difficult economic times. I do wonder how the liquor license issue could even occur when Madisons advertised their extensive wine offerings and offer wine tastings, dinners, etc. The alcohol and deicious martinis was one of the well-known draws for many people so why now?

By Life Lessons

January 18, 2010 1:37 PM | Link to this

To Blessings: You stated you recently moved to the area. It is unfortunate you so easily discount the experiences of others. I have owned a small business in the area for over twenty years and know Dayton has a wonderful community of business owners, small, medium and large. What we do not tolerate are people who habitually misuse and abuse other people and operate their businesses in an unethical manner. Do we all make mistakes? …Yes! But these are not mistakes. These are blatant acts …they have been doing it for years and have finally gotten caught. I have resisted commenting on this blog as I had a negative experience with the Argues as well, however, it needed to be said that this community is very supportive of one another. This community is NOT quick to judge and does NOT enjoy the misfortune of others. We have refrained from judging them for a long time. We tried our best to support them even when they were behaving badly, but enough is enough. They put themselves in this position by treating people badly, breaking the law and repeatedly engaging in unethical business practices.

By DeathandTaxes

January 18, 2010 12:54 PM | Link to this

So, BYBLESSIGNS…. These people took money from employee paychecks for state taxes, and DID NOT pay state taxes. Who do you think is going to be responsible for that come April 15th? Harriet and George?! Yeah right. Are they going to step up and cover those countless thousands of dollars for their employees who on top of that are probably going to be out of a job b/c again, their employer did not follow proper liquor procedures. If you’re going to run your business like Madisons, Dayton probably doesn’t want you anyway.

By Blessings

January 18, 2010 12:32 PM | Link to this

I just read the article for the first time to see what it said. As I scrolled down, I am appalled by the negative comments on this blog. Harriet and George are wonderful people and it’s unfortunate that a few people are making this their forum to spew their venum. I recently moved here to start a business in Dayton; however, I now have doubts about this community and their lack of support for their fellow neighbors and human beings. I will now be looking at another city where people are not so quick to judge or enjoy peoples misfortune. Bottom line, nobody knows what really happened, including myself, so let’s move on. So, I agree, let’s divert our time and energy to step out of this bubble and look at the world and help people in Haiti or other people with tragedy in this world. George and Harriet, many blessings, ignore what is said here lots of bitter people.

By ```````

January 18, 2010 10:58 AM | Link to this

ha ha! i also remember the sambo comment and the black gentleman that applied. no fat chicks either, dont forget that!!!

By James D.

January 18, 2010 12:35 AM | Link to this

Met Harriet a few times, she is one of the rudest individuals I have ever met. Karma does catch up to people.

By seriously?

January 18, 2010 12:01 AM | Link to this

I worked at Books & Co. before BooksAMillion took over - walked in the morning the Argues had posted a copy printed paper on the Cafe (in the middle of the night) that they were closed - blaming of course, Books & Co. Right. That’s good business. Her reputation preceded her - this sealed the deal with me. Then I met a fitness trainer who had worked at Truffles at Cross Point while in High School. She’s an exotic looking beauty who tans very easily. George openly called this young person “their Sambo” - this was in 2000-something - not 1900s! She was clueless on the racist comment until an older worker explained the meaning. She followed them to the opening of Madison’s where a black gentleman came in to apply for a job in the back of the house. As soon as he left, Harriet told her to throw his application out, with another racist, derogatory comment. At that point, this young biracial beauty got her nerve up and finally told Harriet that she was half black - and quit. So you tell me? Did all these “fans” know this side of the Argues? And for those who say it was Dayton’s best? Surely you jest!??! I won’t even dignify it on a LIST of where to dine! Perhaps they can go to the Argues for dinner - before they do their time in JAIL. I agree with others - long over due. Been out of the restaurant biz for years now - I’m not bitter or mean. But mean begets mean - their choice. Illegal. Say no more.

By cook

January 17, 2010 11:40 PM | Link to this

Its apparent the George and Harriet have many friends. Friends are one thing but to work for them is another! I’ve been cook for 15 years, Have never heard a good thing about them. Harriet canbe Cruella in person.Rule number 1 is take care of customer, rule 2 customer will take care of you.they haven’t learned that

By foodieiam

January 17, 2010 6:26 PM | Link to this

To shame on you . I happened to be at AMELIAS on friday becuase we went to Madisons which was closed so we went into bellbrook and seen Jim there . That is why I know what is going on . I will advertise for Amelias It is a great place to socialize and have dinner. If you are saying no W-2S must be an employee that thinks they have to start something like so many negative comments about george and harriet mostly mad employees .

By Karma Watcher

January 17, 2010 1:59 PM | Link to this

Harriet and George Argue certainly can be the nicest people one might meet when they need something, and they can also act nice as they are stealing from others. It is good that their criminal activity has been made public, because it reflects their general indifference towards ethical concerns. Employees have been dealing with this for years in the form of bounced checks, stolen tips, and general indifference. Having had this experience with them, I am mostly angered by the fact that, even now, they are making excuses and expressing the view that they are special and, somehow, above the rules. They have not simply “fallen behind” in their taxes, they have knowingly broken the law.

By Shame On You

January 17, 2010 1:48 PM | Link to this

That’s just like you foodieiam, to take advantage of someone else’s misfortune and grab a piece of free advertisement for Amelia’s. Jim, good luck with your gig at there. Employees didn’t get W2’s from there last year. I’m sure Amelia’s is doomed to follow in the same footsteps.

By foodieiam

January 17, 2010 12:06 PM | Link to this

I do wish Harriet and George well. I hope that those who lost there jobs find new ones because it is difficult in this economy to do so . There are many great independants restaurants out there so we should support them .I have heard that Jim the quitar player has found a new gig at Amelias in Bellbrook on Wednesdays and Saturdays .I seen him there last friday . Good luck Geore and harriet I know it will get better just have faith .

By LOVE

January 17, 2010 10:16 AM | Link to this

Wow so much negativity, come on there is an earthquake in Haiti HELLO!…let’s spend our time better! and the posting at 3:47am way out of line and apparently that person has personal issues to write such a horrible thing. I wish everyone would send love and blessing to our fellow human beings, the world would be a better place.

By oh well

January 17, 2010 12:03 AM | Link to this

jo - I’m glad you had a great Christmas eve dinner. I’m sure all the people working that night would have liked being home with THEIR families. Instead they had to work, because of greed. The owners knew there was a lot of money to be made. It wasn’t only greedy, it was sacrilegious.

By jo

January 16, 2010 5:17 PM | Link to this

NEVER have I commented on a blog before, but I just have to…I have read some awfully rude comments from some really MEAN people who do not know whereof they speak! Maybe they have an axe to grind for some unknown reason, or are just having a bad day. Harriet and George are such kind and generous people…snobs…HARDLY! Our family chose to celebrate Christmas Eve at Madisons and had a FABULOUS experience…food, service, (George was there and by the way, very hospitable). G and H - This shall pass…and I wish you all the best!!!

By Hum!

January 16, 2010 4:35 PM | Link to this

Well, lots of opinions here. I stringently object to the comment about Madison’s being the only restaurant in town with good food. With that said I object even more to the blogger that reamed out the people with nasty comments. I have had many personal encounters with the Argues and I have known them for twenty years. They can be the nicest people when they are getting something from you or want something, whether it is status or money or whatever but the minute they no longer gain anything by being associated with you watch your back. In my experience, not hearsay, they turn on good employees that dare quit because you would rather work someplace else. You can only hope to get paid if you leave and if you have vacation coming, forget it. I am not lazy, have walked a mile or two in their shoes, do know what I am talking about and again have had many encounters with them, on a daily basis for years. I am highly intelligent, live by Karma and have no problem saying they brought all this on themselves. The “dedication” was more about saving face and keeping their image rather than being dedicated. I do not hate them, I feel sorry for them. They never learn. They have now lost 6 restaurants. If you can’t count them then you don’t know them very well. Who payed for all the losses. and why would you keep opening locations when history predicts your failure. Economy? Underfunded? I think not.The common failure thread was George and Harriet. Why keep opening new restaurants when you have failed so many times. Maybe stupidity, more probably, egotism and pride. To Sandy, who’s money did they use the last time. Yeah, you do everything to keep your restaurant going, that is not a measure of good character.Choosing illegal measures to keep your restaurant open, that definitely shows what kind of people they are.

By KWL

January 16, 2010 2:57 PM | Link to this

I don’t care how nice they are - if they knowingly operated a full bar without a liquor license, they are foolish and deserve their fate. That said, the few times that I actually saw the owners at the restaurant they treated their staff like indentured slaves, and didn’t exactly go out of their way to be nice to their customers either. It always felt as if it we were inconveniencing them to be there, so they no longer get our business any more. Pity that, and probably why their two best chefs left for greener pastures.

By PSK

January 16, 2010 2:55 PM | Link to this

I have known the Argues for almost 30 years. They have tried for years to bring quality food and service to the community. I have known them to do everything in their power to help others around them. Not everyone is at their best when worrying about different problems. I have eaten just about everywhere, and have good and bad days, experiences and meals. But then I go back and it is different. I believe in the second chance, or someone having an off day. I am appalled at the hatefulness of some on this site. It seems very apparent like their are truly bitter people who have an ax to grind with the Argues and very biased. Anyone who wishes someone to go to jail, to lose their business, or say this when their business has problems are sick, hateful people. Karma? Well I pray your bad Karma will come back to you. Your comments are as rude and ignorant as I bet your behaviors have been. Maybe some of you were jealous of them. Or maybe some of their ex employees were lazy, did not do their jobs, and were expected to act professionally which they did not. For all we know maybe the people they had to rely on were the disreputable ones. If you don’t walk in someone else’s shoes then shut up! You do not know everyone’s business yet free to make your comments without knowing the facts.There are way too many people in this country who have no respect for others, or show this ugly side of their own behaviors. Shame on you. If you don’t like someplace stop going to it. But to wish this on anyone is truly horrific! Honorable behaviors? Some of you don’t know the meaning of the word. To those business people who act so high, mighty and above board, I bet you have had the same problems, have not been aware of all the laws and issues that you might be involved. Funny how the hateful love to kick others when they are down. The small and independent business leaders should be more supportive to help people succeed. Otherwise people may say the same about you if you fail. This is why this country is in a mess. You love to judge others without knowing the facts. Just unbelievable! You sound like children. Oh, what a minute, children act better than you! George and Harriet would do anything for you. God Bless and keep you!

By out

January 16, 2010 1:53 PM | Link to this

I have known the Argues for over 20 years they are not nice people

By Time to hang it up?

January 16, 2010 12:20 PM | Link to this

“It’s sad that Dayton cannot embrace the Independent restaurants and instead choose to support the mediocre chains.” Blah Blah Blah. Rue Dumaine C’est Tout L’Auberge Pine Club El Meson Savona Coco’s Bistro The Winds There’s plenty of quality independents that are thriving. If you have quality food and courteous service, people will come. The people that think this place tanked because Daytonians are incapable of embracing anything other than chain restaurants are sorely mistaken.

By Business man

January 16, 2010 12:15 PM | Link to this

To SLG: I happen to be very successful and believe in sharing that by patronizing local businesses. We chose to host our meeting at Madison’s because it was a local business. You are correct - it is very hard to keep a business afloat particularly in this economy. That would be more the reason to treat each and every patron (those who have decided to patronize YOUR business) with the respect and common courtesy they deserve. To chose to treat them any other way is just not good business - in any economy. We were treated shabbily.

By Just us

January 16, 2010 12:14 PM | Link to this

My husband and I have been dropping by for a late dinner once or twice a week. We usually sat in the bar area and Katie was so friendly and made our experiences great - every time. I know by sight who the owners are, but all the time we were there they never came over. I don’t know if that is snobby or not, but it just seemed the regulars there were more arrogant than other places we’ve been. We’re used to dining out at nice independant restaurants. I’ll miss Katie, Jim (the gutair guy) and the food. Sorry to see bad management take the jobs away from people in a town that truly needs them.

By Retired Sgt

January 16, 2010 12:12 PM | Link to this

Conversly, I hop ethey take a look at the negative comments and use them as positives to change the perception that some here have. I have always taken negatives directed at me as mirrors into the soul. Negative comments can also be good, as long as they are not mean spirited…..

By SLG

January 16, 2010 11:53 AM | Link to this

I have never taken the time to comment on any article. I have to this time. I agree with Ohioperson and Fan. Who has the right to judge and throw stones? I wonder how successful the people are that have written such nasty comments. It’s hard to keep afloat in this economy. Harriet and George worked hard to provide a beautiful and inviting restaurant. Their love of food and family is evident in Madison’s surroundings. It’s sad that Dayton cannot embrace the Independent restaurants and instead choose to support the mediocre chains. All I can say is that I was always welcomed with a smile and a hug from both Harriet and George. Madison’s is a place where a single women can go, feel comfortable and hopefully not run into the ignorant people that have posted the negative comments. I hope Harriet and George concentrate on the positive comments and know that they have the support of people who love and appreciate them.

By ZsaZsa

January 16, 2010 11:46 AM | Link to this

Wondering if Harriet and George realize they come across as cold and indifferent, some would say snobbish? For this reason I have chosen not to patronize their businesses. Sometimes the impression people make doesn’t match how they think they come across.

By Business man

January 16, 2010 11:35 AM | Link to this

To Slapshotchiefs: As you can see by my name, Business man, I am a huge risk taker as well. I own my own business - dozens of people count on my making the right decisions more times than not. If you look thru these posts you will notice no one is denying the Argues are hard workers and risk takers (entrepreneurial). What the general consensus seems to be is that they do not treat people well. I know the experience I had with them, again, was not a pleasant one. Even the most die hard risk takers understand that in order to succeed in business you have to treat people well. My Dad taught me to always be respectful to everyone because “The same people you meet when you are on your way up are the same people you will meet on the way down!”

By SLAPSHOTCHIEFS

January 16, 2010 11:22 AM | Link to this

George and Harriet Argue are two of the finest people I know. They are kind and giving, hard working and dedicated to their family. They are just the risk takers that this economy needs to get on track. Risk takers fail many times more than they succeed. What is more disturbing is those cold and timid folks who for some reason take pleasure in when things do not go well in the ventures of others. The Argues know who their friends are and they will continue the same work ethic in whatever direction they choose.

By Retired Sgt

January 16, 2010 11:05 AM | Link to this

I cant believe I mis typed LIQUOR!! And I havent had any yet…

By Retired Sgt

January 16, 2010 10:59 AM | Link to this

To Ken and Carl, Just FYI, having worked these types of investigations for years, #1- there are only about 7 ODPS agents assigned to liquior control in this area. Their area of enforcement basically covers cincinnati to Dayton, From Columbus to Indiana border. There are a heck of a lot of liqiuor permits in that area. There are over 900 permits in the City of Dayton alone, much less that area. It takes some to to get to investigating these. It is not like they peruse a list every day to see who has a permit and who doesnt. There are other investigations they have to do too, ranging from drugs sold in bars, prostitution, gambling etc (In permit estab.) And Carl, this is their assignment. They dont do street level heroin investigations. Their pervue is permit holders exclusively.

By Ken

January 16, 2010 10:41 AM | Link to this

Wow! What would we do without our govt busting in and conviscating a bottle of Merlot when there are less important things in our society like heroin being sold to 9 year olds?

By DAVE

January 16, 2010 10:37 AM | Link to this

This is fantastic!!! These were not nice people. I am happy I will get my parking spot back!!!!!!!

By Business man

January 16, 2010 10:21 AM | Link to this

We had a business meeting at Madison’s and had a very unpleasant encounter with Harriet about the “terms” of using her private dining room. She was very rude, arrogant and condescending as though she were doing us a favor by letting us meet there. We looked around and there we only two other diners in the restaurant and it was lunchtime! She should have been glad we were there patronizing her business! I know she can’t say customer service but, Harriet, can you say KARMA?

By Joe H

January 16, 2010 10:05 AM | Link to this

I guess you have to be a member of congress, senator or a cabinet official to get a pass on your back taxes.

By Brian

January 16, 2010 12:09 AM | Link to this

If you are used to eating wings at Fricker’s you might think the Argues are snooty, but they VERY nice people.

By BL

January 15, 2010 9:24 PM | Link to this

I’ve been reading many negative comments about a couple most of you really don’t know. I have known George and Harriet Argue for around 12 years and they are good people. Over those years I have done everything from catering and hostess duty to tending the roses at Madisons and thoroughly enjoyed working for them. These are tough times and it would have been easier to close the doors and walk away a long time ago, but they chose to stay the course and work hard to provide a wonderful dining experience for their customers and jobs for their employees. God bless you — you are loved!

By Gastronomical!

January 15, 2010 8:12 PM | Link to this

Can anyone of you “Argue” that if/you they could not pay taxes, you/they wouldn’t pay taxes? Hey…keep funding (with taxes)the idiots who already have your economic demise already planned. All of you reading this know that all taxes collected are used in a proper way and the government budget is always balanced…right? I’ve “squirreled” about $250,000.00 away without the Govt. knowing about it. They never will. There are ways to do it. Why??? The Govt. doesn’t know how to save $250,000.00….only spend it. More power to “tax cheats”…YEA!!!!!!

By SL

January 15, 2010 8:11 PM | Link to this

Many of you who have commented on this blog do not have a clue what you are talking about. As a former employee of almost 10 years I can assure you that the Argues are not the monsters you claim they are. They are kind,compassionate, hard working people who have put their life’s earnings and retirement into trying to give the people of Dayton a great dining experience. George Argue would give the shirt off his back to anyone in need.He tried to keep his business afloat not only for his patrons but for his employees, some who have been with them for 10+ years. It is unfortunate that diner’s of this area prefer the prefab foods of the chain restuarants over homemade foods served by the small businesses.If more people dined at the small businesses, so many great restaurants of Dayton wouldn’t have closed. Don’t be so quick to judge. These are tough times and the Argues are good people.

By cubbybear

January 15, 2010 7:58 PM | Link to this

It’s great that they were so customer freindly. But they do have a responsibly to turn over the sales tax and payroll withholding they collect to the state. It’s not operating capital. Try filing your sate income tax when your employer has not reported your withholding tax.

By Picky Eater

January 15, 2010 7:23 PM | Link to this

Out of all the restaurants in Dayton, Madison’s was the only one that had outstanding food AND a feeling of community. I’ve always had a great time and have always been greeted warmly by Harriet and George. T

By debbie

January 15, 2010 6:56 PM | Link to this

As a business owner if you collect taxes but end up spending that money on operating expenses then it is time to ask yourself tough questions about the viability of your dream.I know, been there done that. It is rough stuff. Also as an owner I have heard it said your first loss is your smallest loss. Some dreams are not meant to happen. The location has had other nice eating establishments fail also. Maybe it need to be a doctors office. I do not know the people but many seem to in a most negative way. It is nice to be nice, it always pays off.

By Michelle

January 15, 2010 6:31 PM | Link to this

Every meal I had at Madison’s was excellent. The atmosphere was always fun, and I could see that this was a place that many in the community enjoyed gathering with friends. Any local business is a loss to the greater Dayton area, and Madison’s Bistro is no exception.

By Steve_

January 15, 2010 6:12 PM | Link to this

Wow a lot of bitter posts, my experience at Madison’s was enjoyable the food was always good. I hate to see any local business go out before the chain restaurants. I hope the best for Madison’s owners, I will let the courts make the judgment.

By a Madison's fan

January 15, 2010 5:31 PM | Link to this

Unfortunately a great restaurant has to close. Madison’s will surely be missed. Their food was excellent and the atmosphere was terrific. The nasty bloggers out there show how ignorant they are. George and Harriet were hard working and good people. It is a shame this community can’t support the locals. Their loss and mine too. They will be missed.

By ohioperson

January 15, 2010 5:25 PM | Link to this

Unbelievable how so many people post such negative comments. Please look into your own heart and realize that you are doing what you accuse others of doing. This negative gossip is unproductive. Our family has dined at the restaurant and enjoyed the atmosphere and the staff. They serve delicious food (cook your own if you are that picky and stay indoors) and are kind owners. He who is without sin can cast the first stone. Unless you walk in someone’s shoes, do not be too quick to judge. You probably do not have all the facts to say, “they are getting what they deserve” … have some compassion in these trying times. We are sad to see Madison’s Bistro close. It will be a great loss to dining. Good luck to the Argues as they work through this situation. You have our prayers.

By Meistro Bistro

January 15, 2010 5:09 PM | Link to this

Pay the taxes before yourself. Not too hard to figure out. Maybe by this time the license would be in hand. No excuse valid.

By What goes around...

January 15, 2010 5:01 PM | Link to this

JJ - If you re-read the posts, you will notice that a lot of the negative comments about the Argue’s specifically, came from previous employees like myself. I am not bitter. I was not fired. And it’s been a lot of years since I worked for them. But, trust me, Harriet was not pleasant to work for and did act as if she was better than everyone. If you don’t believe that, then maybe you have that same characteristic.

By BM

January 15, 2010 5:00 PM | Link to this

I thought the food was great and loved the music on weekends. We were sporadic customers, but George shook my hand everytime we came in the door…I felt welcome at Madison’s and I’m sad to see it go.

By What goes around...

January 15, 2010 5:00 PM | Link to this

JJ - If you re-read the posts, you will notice that a lot of the negative comments about the Argue’s specifically, came from previous employees like myself. I am not bitter. I was not fired. And it’s been a lot of years since I worked for them. But, trust me, Harriet was not pleasant to work for and did act as if she was better than everyone. If you don’t believe that, then maybe you have that same characteristic.

By jj

January 15, 2010 4:48 PM | Link to this

I moved here from Texas and the Argue’s were some of the first MidWesterner’s I met. They were and are warm and charming. There food and service has always been great. The atmosphere provided everything a person would want. I am shocked at the midwesterner’s in this blog, you must never get out much, cause I never have run in to such a nasty bunch since moving her, thank goodness. You know the old story how was the place you had your last meal, you will probably have the same experience at the next place, some people are just mean and that’s being NICE. Not the Argue’s or they never would have been around this long. Great food, charm and friends to many. I will be here to provide support, love and encouragement, stop reading this blog, these people are disgusting, thank God they quit coming in your business, they would have run the rest of us off. Love you!

By sw

January 15, 2010 4:17 PM | Link to this

worst meal I ever had after waiting over an hour at the bar, with reservations. Ha,the wine was good, but we never went back.

By HAHA

January 15, 2010 3:52 PM | Link to this

These people got what they deserved. They are shameless and shred when it comes to money and the operation of their business. Close it down. The service and food isn’t any better that Ruby Tuesday’s down the street!

By Patron

January 15, 2010 3:48 PM | Link to this

Look, the bottom line is this place was a gathering place for the community, including myself. I am so sad to see it is closed. This is a rough time in this world and all people want to do is badger, come on we do not know the whole story. Let’s give support to our fellow human beings here. I wish them the best and know we all love you..thank you for your hard work and commitment. You are good people trying to make a business work, it’s hard times.

By larry

January 15, 2010 3:40 PM | Link to this

a group of us,more than just a few, will miss harriet and george…for sure!(madisons) a very nice high end spot that made the best martinis and the best 3$ shrimp cocktail in town!

By Karmadoesit

January 15, 2010 2:37 PM | Link to this

As a restaurant owner who fell behind on our sales tax, we would have never considered operating without a license. We talked to the liquor dept. made arrangements to catch up on our taxes, and it wasn’t easy.These people (I know them well) do think they are above everyone. They will not hesitate to stab you in the back if you do something they don’t like. This is just another example and speaks to their character. There are many ex-employees that have all said the same words. Karma! They will get theirs. With all of the restaurants they have owned that have failed, you would think they would start to see the bigger picture and start being honorable in the way they deal with people and debts. I too hope they both go to jail.

By Another Dayton Diner

January 15, 2010 2:24 PM | Link to this

My family also had a terrible dining experience at Madison’s and swore we would never return. We experienced the same arrogant and rude behavior from the owners. How did they stay open this long is a mystery to me.

By LOUNGEMAN

January 15, 2010 1:45 PM | Link to this

You are so wrong Fan..they treated their wholesalers food and beverage like dirt. called on them for a few years and they were the worst people. They thought they were above everyone. If your business is failing close up …dont pile on the debt.Harriet is mean and her husband just plain rude!

By Matthew

January 15, 2010 1:38 PM | Link to this

Looks like “any press is good press” certainly is not true ! ! !

By null

January 15, 2010 1:35 PM | Link to this

They do have the best tomtato soup in the area, but, well, pay your taxes and don’t sell booze without a license. Natch.

By What goes around...

January 15, 2010 1:02 PM | Link to this

I love it. I worked at Truffles in Cross Pointe about 19 years ago. Harriet was a horrible person…..she was so much “better” than everyone else. Guess she’s not above the law. What goes around, comes around.

By Ohio Tax Payer

January 15, 2010 12:48 PM | Link to this

Why don’t you get a clue. Not paying your taxes, especially money taken from the employees hurts all of us. How do you think the state pays for parks, education and free programs. Not to mention it hurst good business owners doing things the right way. Shut them down and throw away their keys.

By Fan

January 15, 2010 12:25 PM | Link to this

Why don’t you people get a life! This place was one of the best in Dayton. Great food, great service and the Argue’s are great people who are passionate about their biz. Sounds like they were in survival mode…who hasn’t been there in the past couple of years!!!

By Red

January 15, 2010 11:56 AM | Link to this

It has been nearly two years since I stepped foot in that place. The service was horrible and the food nothing to brag about. I am sorry they have this problem yet Mr. Argue was never a “restaurant” person. They should have remained in Cross Point as Truffles. Better food and better service.

By dayton diner

January 15, 2010 11:52 AM | Link to this

Only went there once, and the staff was so arrogant and unpleasant that after one drink we left. Glad we never went back, and no real loss to the dining community.

By jp

January 15, 2010 11:50 AM | Link to this

Ouch!!!!

By Carl

January 15, 2010 11:41 AM | Link to this

Great police work. One year to caught him. Been there all along. To many coffee breaks no time to do the job

By Lenny

January 15, 2010 11:31 AM | Link to this

They caught the Beer Baron?

By LOUNGEMAN

January 15, 2010 11:20 AM | Link to this

I cant believe it took so long , everyone in town knew they were doing this.