By Jim

October 6, 2008 11:10 PM | Link to this

“But who is anyone to judge what other people do, or for that matter make the choices for them?” You’re using a .edu email and you write that way? Go ask for your money back. We all have to judge what others do. That’s what a community does. We decide what is acceptable and what the penalty for acting outside of that will be. Laws are the judgement of the people about what is acceptable. Sadly killing babies is right now and will be more under Obama.

By Jim

October 6, 2008 11:01 PM | Link to this

Obama is for late term abortion. He is for allowing an aborted baby who surives to die without treatment outside of the mother. Obama is not a friend of pro life. Don’t sling the rape/incest shell argument around. The smallest minority is in that group. Babies are killed to keep from being a penalty for the mother. Ask Obama, he sees an unwanted prenancy is a penalty for a daughter, not as a life.

By we the people..

October 5, 2008 11:32 AM | Link to this

as far as referring to abortion as being a baby killer. if you can step out of your hole for a minutes and realize people are raped and molested everyday. When you do take a step out of that hole, imagine your wife, daughter, neice, or neighbor being the victim- would you want them to go through that? Maybe if you are a man. But who is anyone to judge what other people do, or for that matter make the choices for them? This is not a case of democrat or republican- this is a case of health. If you are not making a decision that would rock your entire world, no one should worry about those who have to make that decision- and who are you to want to take that away from someone else. No matter who the president- we need choice and change.

By we the people..

October 5, 2008 11:32 AM | Link to this

as far as referring to abortion as being a baby killer. if you can step out of your hole for a minutes and realize people are raped and molested everyday. When you do take a step out of that hole, imagine your wife, daughter, neice, or neighbor being the victim- would you want them to go through that? Maybe if you are a man. But who is anyone to judge what other people do, or for that matter make the choices for them? This is not a case of democrat or republican- this is a case of health. If you are not making a decision that would rock your entire world, no one should worry about those who have to make that decision- and who are you to want to take that away from someone else. No matter who the president- we need choice and change.

By we the people..

October 5, 2008 11:31 AM | Link to this

as far as referring to abortion as being a baby killer. if you can step out of your hole for a minutes and realize people are raped and molested everyday. When you do take a step out of that hole, imagine your wife, daughter, neice, or neighbor being the victim- would you want them to go through that? Maybe if you are a man. But who is anyone to judge what other people do, or for that matter make the choices for them? This is not a case of democrat or republican- this is a case of health. If you are not making a decision that would rock your entire world, no one should worry about those who have to make that decision- and who are you to want to take that away from someone else. No matter who the president- we need choice and change.

By Ethel S.

October 4, 2008 8:08 PM | Link to this

Here is the main stream media read after the Biden/Palin Debate. Palin wins on style and Biden wins on substance. And here is my view of it, Biden had so many mistakes in his substance regarding the legislative records of both candidates, he loses by a large margin. The fact that a 30+ year Senator had to struggle so hard to keep up with the sharp and informative answers of Gov. Palin was made Sarah the winner. For example, when asked about the gay marriage issues, Gov. Palin gave the correct definition we had now (marriage between one man and one woman), said she was tolerant of gay people and their civil rights, but was opposed to gay marriage. After a couple of go a rounds, Gov. Biden finally admitted they agreed on opposing gay marriage. But here is what I really liked about Gov. Palin’s debate and answers. She looked right into the camera and eyes of the American people and said that with a McCain/Palin administration, the taxpayers would not be taken advantaged of again. She come through as sincere and a fighter for the causes of the American people. Way to go, girl! Our family is completely behind you because you put the USA first!

By Jim

October 4, 2008 7:58 AM | Link to this

So you idiots cite traffic offenses and of course don’t say it’s a traffic ticket trying to infer it’s something worse. Typical democrat tactic. As for nObama’s degrees, big deal, ton’s of people from Harvard out there, he still would not have been nominated if the lib idiots and their white sorrow for slavery hadn’t backed him. He’s less than nothing special, and his promoted race is what got him where he is.

By not null

October 4, 2008 12:45 AM | Link to this

this whole thread is a joke. Both parties use notes/prompters to let them tell the public what they want to hear. You may agree or disagree that is your choice.Spend less time posting endless comments and get your family out to vote. Time for USA to vote. If you dont vote dont post.

By Norm

October 4, 2008 12:05 AM | Link to this

Listen to what your saying, and quit running your mouth about things you know nothing about. You people are pitiful.

By Norm

October 4, 2008 12:04 AM | Link to this

Listen to what your saying, and quit running your mouth about things you know nothing about. You people are pitiful.

By Jim

October 3, 2008 11:53 PM | Link to this

I’m always amazed at the bigotry and ignorance on these boards, considering it’s 2008. Obama went to Columbia (BA Political Science) and graduated magna c*m laude from Harvard Law School. So JIM, I think he’s a little over qualified for Garbage Man.

By Palin family trouble

October 3, 2008 11:25 PM | Link to this

Go to the state of Alaska’s court records page. Thats were I got the record. Bristol Palin has been busted 3 times for car related offenses, the Palin son is in Iraq, he had to go or face jail time and Todd Palin was busted for DUI related offenses.

By Jim

October 3, 2008 11:03 PM | Link to this

Hey Mr. Criminal records, speak English. What was the charge? Does it equate to felony drug abuse like nObama’s does? Or is it as I suspect some kind of licensing citation? Failure to register? As for the numbskull claiming this is a stunt, If nObama wasn’t claiming he is black he would never have gotten enough signatures to run for garbage man.

By Palin family trouble

October 3, 2008 10:56 PM | Link to this

Sarah Palin has a criminal record. In fact most of the Palin family has been in trouble. Location: Dillingham Name: PALIN, SARAH, MS DOB: 02/11/1964 Case #: 3DI-93-00249CR Case Type: State Case Title:ST VS PALIN,SARAH Attorney 1: Date Filed: 06/26/1993 Attorney 2: Type Person: Defendant Criminal - Offense: CRIM NEG FAIL REG NT Criminal - Statute: 5AAC06.370(A) (Registration - Bristol Bay - Permit-Register Sites) Criminal - Dispo: No Contest Plea Criminal - Date Dispo: 08/25/1993 Criminal - Felony/Misdemeanor: Violation Criminal - SIS Date Dispo: Location: Dillingham Name: PALIN, SARAH, HMS DOB: 02/11/1964 Case #: 3DI-93-00217CR Case Type: State Case Title:ST VS PALIN,SARAH Attorney 1: Date Filed: 06/28/1993 Attorney 2: Type Person: Defendant Criminal - Offense: C/F W/O PHOTO ID Criminal - Statute: 20AAC05.115 Criminal - Dispo: Dismiss Criminal - Date Dispo: 08/25/1993 Criminal - Felony/Misdemeanor: Misdemeanor Criminal - SIS Date Dispo:

By Jim

October 3, 2008 10:56 PM | Link to this

PALIN: Said of Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama: “94 times he voted to increase taxes or not support a tax reduction.” THE FACTS: The dubious count includes repetitive votes as well as votes to cut taxes for the middle class while raising them on the rich. An analysis by factcheck.org found that 23 of the votes were for measures that would have produced no tax increase at all, seven were in favor of measures that would have lowered taxes for many, 11 would have increased taxes on only those making more than $1 million a year. PALIN: “Two years ago, remember, it was John McCain who pushed so hard with the Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac reform measures. He sounded that warning bell.” THE FACTS: Republican Sen. Chuck Hagel of Nebraska led an effort in 2005 to tighten regulation on the mortgage underwriters — McCain joined as a co-sponsor a year later. The legislation was never taken up by the full Senate, then under Republican control. PALIN: Said the United States has reduced its troop level in Iraq to a number below where it was when the troop increase began in early 2007. THE FACTS: Not correct. The Pentagon says there are currently 152,000 U.S. troops in Iraq, about 17,000 more than there were before the 2007 military buildup began. PALIN: Said Alaska is “building a nearly $40 billion natural gas pipeline, which is North America’s largest and most expensive infrastructure project ever to flow those sources of energy into hungry markets.” THE FACTS: Not quite. Construction is at least six years away.

By Jim

October 3, 2008 10:52 PM | Link to this

John McCain has made a mockery of American politics by selecting Sarah Palin as his running mate. Palin’s selection, which wouldn’t fly in any field that requires credentials, is a testament to the Republican propaganda machine. The fact that a large segment of the population has bought into the notion that education, knowledge, and intellect doesn’t matter, is truly baffling and very troubling. We should all be outraged that John McCain has put our country at risk by attempting such a cynical political stunt.

By painfultruth

October 3, 2008 10:34 PM | Link to this

One thing for sure is Dayton is full of know-nothing bleding heart liberals that depend on “the government” spoon feeding them for their survival. It’s a sorry state of affairs. What is troubling is the outward hatred of REpublicans. Democrats only want more control of YOUR personal life, and WANT you to be dependent upon “government”. You weak minded fools can’t support yourselves, so you blindly follow Obama and Biden. Too bad you supposed “adults” need the nanny goernment to run your lives! You can’t do it on your own, can you? Just like kindergarden! Republicans lead;Democrats only follow. Remember the spineless Jimmy Carter?

By Jim where'd you get your info

October 3, 2008 10:30 PM | Link to this

Jim, who’s your inside hook with the repub campaign? Tell them they’re wrong. She’s giving interviews, just saw one she did right after the debate. Palin tells the truth, lying Joe kept true to form and just made his facts up. You can be pretty darned confident if everything you say is a lie.

By Jim

October 3, 2008 10:19 PM | Link to this

In one breath Palin says we need more regulation, in the next breath she says government needs to get of the way. The other point of major concern was her troubling statement at the end of the debate about expanding the powers of the VP within the Senate.She clearly has no clue about constitutional law.

By Jim

October 3, 2008 10:13 PM | Link to this

Palin didn’t even know the McCain campaign had pulled out of Michigan. She heard about it on the news, because she doesn’t seem to read papers, and because she’s not in the loop of her own campaign. Now they’re saying no more interviews, questions, or press conferences with Palin. She’s nothing more then a theatrical campaign prop, fueled by her own blind ambition.

By Jim

October 3, 2008 9:24 PM | Link to this

You guys would vote for a criminal for president? You would want someone who’s never lead anything in his life running the coountry? You want an avowed racist married to a racist running the country? Read his books before you vote. Amazing. I’m not sure how much of nObama you will be able to afford, but I’m betting if he makes it, he’s a 4 yr prez and the repubs will be right back. Hopefully he can’t screw up too much in 4 years before the yuppie idiots wake up.

By to thinkaboutit

October 3, 2008 9:15 PM | Link to this

If you are going to read a book, you need to start with a dictionary so you can learn how to spell!

By Once a Rep now a Dem

October 3, 2008 8:56 PM | Link to this

I found Biden to be very professional in his answers, he knew what he was talking about, When Ifill said: ” is that a yes or no” to Palin, that told me right there who I was voting for, Obama-Biden, how much are we going to lose before we wake up?

By thinkaboutit

October 3, 2008 8:37 PM | Link to this

To anyone trying to do the math….there is 300 million people in the US. 700 Billion divided by 300 million is approximatley 2,300 per person. Granted that this amount would increase if only given to adults who are working or who can prove that they have been working. But to the guy who said that 750 Billion given back to the people would be 2 million dollars per person, better check your math bud.

By jim

October 3, 2008 7:11 PM | Link to this

So you prefer Joe Biden’s debate style which isn’t to stretch or manipulate the truth, but to flat out look square in the camera and lie? And for the elitist that made the stupid statement about Alaska’s education, have you seen where Dayton resides on the worst places to send your kid to school?

By TKidding

October 3, 2008 7:08 PM | Link to this

A little off topic here since both candidates are for the bailout. I have decided a better course for the bailout. Instead of giving one company 7 hundred billion dollars when they blew it in the first place why not give every single American 2 million it comes out to be about the same and I for one think it is better than giving those idiots more money of ours to waste. Who is with me?

By Go figure!

October 3, 2008 6:32 PM | Link to this

What a shock, the News Sun picked very inflattering pictures of Palin while all of Biden’s pictures show a man in “control”. This paper is worthless if you want unbiased news.

By Joe sixpack

October 3, 2008 6:01 PM | Link to this

The devil is among us and they are called Republicans.

By billybobalso

October 3, 2008 5:52 PM | Link to this

These debates are silly. If they wanted real discourse, they would ask questions that would require logic, problem-solving, synthesis of information, and the ability to think quickly and specifically. AND, the moderator would have a buzzer, or preferably a tazer, that they would use to stop the reply the moment it goes off topic or uses a buzz word or catch phrase! Sarah Palin would fail miserably under such a scenario, just as she did in the lightweight Katie Couric interview. Don’t you think we’ve had enough double-speak? Why can’t we elect an intelligent AND experienced man, or woman, of the caliber of Colin Powell? There is someone who can think on his feet, and speak clearly. If Colin Powell were in the same room with ALL of these Presidential and VP candidates, they would be seen as insignificant and sophomoric. Why is our system so screwed up that we can’t even nominate a qualified candidate, regardless of party affiliation? They are all second or third string players, at best—shameless self-promoters who enjoy the sound of their voices. I yelled outloud for Sarah Palin to just shut up last night. It was all one big WHINE… to me. The pitch patterns of her voice, the “great white north” ‘isms. The references to “up there,” like she is from some foreign country? Well, yeah, she is. Alaska is basically a depressed, under-educated state with a culture of it’s own. I hope other people were screaming too!! And to ask Biden “Can I call you Joe?” only to turn around and use that casually in a dig later in the debate was rude and an obvious set-up. Pardon my Alaskan, but this woman is simply a manipulative female sled-dog. Period.

By Ruth Brown

October 3, 2008 5:21 PM | Link to this

Sarah Palen should have been disqualified as soon as she refused to answer the question and made up one of her own. As a former debate coach for high school students, if my student had done that, she would have been sent off the stage. As far as her speech at the R’s convention, she took a Karl Rove speech right off the promptor. Lord help us if she gets a hold of that office! Ruth Brown

By Jim to aidawedo

October 3, 2008 5:19 PM | Link to this

Aidawedo, the democrats have been the majority for quite some time and its that party who is responsible for this mess. Bush couldn’t pass squat. The dems have messed it all up. You guys keep blaming Bush, you ought to take a look closer, start with Barney Frank and Pelosi. They’re more responsible than Gw

By aidawedo

October 3, 2008 5:06 PM | Link to this

The pundits are who get me; why would they seriously consider her to even have tied or held a candle to Joe Biden? She stated that she would not adhere to the rules of the debate. She talked around the questions and did not answer most; especially on (I paraphrase) “What would you give up to account for the passing of this bailout bill?” Generally, Republicans don’t know how to manage the government and they mess(sic) it up badly when they are left to guard the hen house. They just know how to parrot their talking points. Smaller government… crawhh! Less government… crawhh! Lower taxes… crawhh! Government out of our private lives (except when making personal decisions like who we love, pregnancy)… crawhh!

By mwm

October 3, 2008 4:57 PM | Link to this

Palin would not be able to “cram” for weeks prior to a meeting with the likes of Putin or other leaders in the world. She would not have the time to “cram” for a national crisis or look up answers on Wikipedia. McCain chose her as a political stunt. His choice of Palin as his running mate shows a total disregard for our country.. Perhaps McCain has stock in a fashion eyeware company. But, Palin is incapable of the job. She lost the debate. Mainly because all her answers lacked knowledge and substance. She also resorted to republican talking points when she had no answer. Which was often. Her little cute chick routine does not work. If, in the unlikely event the VP had to assume the presidency, I see Joe Biden as the best choice to lead our country. Palin would only be a pawn and would not be able to lead our country. The republicans that are supporting McCain are not thinking with a full deck. McCain and Palin are not “mavericks” They are more of the same Bush agenda politics. And, would continue the failure management of Bush. It is important to look at the past eight years so that we do not continue or repeat the failure policies of the republican agenda.

By a troubled voter for McCain because Obama is a criminal

October 3, 2008 4:50 PM | Link to this

nObama has been a Senator for a minute. He started running for president almost immediately upon getting elected to the Senate. He was a “community organizer” what ever the heck that is. He was a state senator who did diddly squat while in office there. He hasn’t run anything, he’s never had to worry about a payroll. He is not in the main stream. You people supporting him have got to know that he looks down his nose at all of us. He is not of us, he is above us. Palin’s family in 2 years donated over $8000 to charity. nObama hasn’t given anything other than to his racist preacher. He doesn’t even take care of his brother who is living in a hut in a third world ghetto. Why in the heck would you support someone who associates with criminal terrorists, who attends a racist church, who is an admitted felon himself? nObama has violated numerous state and federal laws and wrote about it in one of his I love me books. How in the heck can you idiots support that? Am I happy with McCain? Nope, not even a little, but compare their backgrounds, compare their associations. Compare the responsibilities they have had over the years. There is no comparison between the 2. If Biden wasn’t such a blatant liar I could support him easier than the other 2 for prez. Palin is one of the main stream. She is a working mother, she understands budgets, she hasn’t had anything handed to her. Her approval ratings in her home state are huge. Even former Clinton staffers are supporting Palin over the nObama ticket. You are known by the company you keep. If you were best friends with a terrorist how would your friends feel about you? This guy cannot be the next president of the US. He is a product of the sleaze of Chicago.

By MeTwo

October 3, 2008 4:39 PM | Link to this

When will everyone realize that the reason jobs are being out-sourced is because of Clinton??? Not Bush!

By Fed Up

October 3, 2008 4:37 PM | Link to this

I’m voting Democratic because I don’t want to work for a living, I’m voting democratic because the government knows how to spend my money better than I do, I am voting Democratic because the government can pick out a Doctor for me better than I can. NOT!! Nobama

By Jim

October 3, 2008 4:20 PM | Link to this

John McCain has made a mockery of American politics by selecting Sarah Palin as his running mate. Palin’s selection, which wouldn’t fly in corporate America,in Education, or in any field that requires credentials, is a testament to the mass hypnosis abilities of the Republican propaganda machine. The fact that a large segment of the population has bought into the idea that education, knowledge, and intellect doesn’t matter, is truly baffling and very troubling. We should all be outraged that John McCain put our country at risk by attempting such a cynical political stunt.

By thinkaboutit

October 3, 2008 4:16 PM | Link to this

To SMDC, WOW your calling the kettle black, you make fun of people who blog while also blogging yourself. you make fun of people who read and blog on many diffrent sites, and how would you know if you were not doing the same. You tell people who work and go to school to get out and meet people, isn’t that what they are doing by working and going to school. You say read a paper or book, last time i was in school that is what they do there is read books and expand the mind. Sounds to me like your a huge hipacrit who is more times than not ppunked out by more inteligent people. It only took me a minute to read your blog and tear it apart. Don’t be mad bud, maybe you should go to work and/or school and educate yourself so next time you make more since.

By Alice

October 3, 2008 3:54 PM | Link to this

totally right, SMDC.

By thinkaboutit

October 3, 2008 3:51 PM | Link to this

All I keep hearing is McCain did this, McCain did that, everyone is blaming Mccain for this or that. Correct me if I’m wrong but McCain is not the only senator in washington. Atleast they guy is doing something. what has Obama done but talk. why would any of you support a guy who is obviously supported by our retarded media. The media in this country is and has been a joke for some time. Being in law enforcement and in most cases seeing it with my own eyes, 75% OF WHAT THE MEDIA REPORTS IS WRONG. To my fellow republican’s keep up the good works. We cannot afford a democratic house and president.

By SMDC

October 3, 2008 3:45 PM | Link to this

C’mon, Ecartman. The Colorado Democracy Alliance is nothing more than a rabid conservative blog. No wonder there’s so much negativity in many of these posts. Keyboard-tough people like you come home after a bad day at school or work, tie into a Red Bull or six and fill your minds with hateful tripe from hardcore blogs that ape your postions. Then you go out on message boards like this one, adopt multiple ID’s and unload venom and crap all afternoon to make yourself feel better. Put down the Red Bull, turn off your computer and get out and interact with more interesting people. Read a newspaper, a magazine or a book once in a while. Do the heavy lifting of thinking for yourself, then get back to me.

By Liberals

October 3, 2008 3:35 PM | Link to this

If you want change, change your huggies. Quit crying all the time.

By gjg

October 3, 2008 3:35 PM | Link to this

Palin did not make a complete fool of herself, so she accomplished her goal for the debate. One of the points Biden made which is alarming is that McCain will tax employee health care benefits. With all the problems with health care in this country, this is exactly the wrong thing to do. It will harm many working families, including mine, since we get employer supported health care benefits. And we were told the Iraqis would be trained to take over for our troops. Obama/Biden are absolutely right that it is time for that promise to be kept!

By Flower child

October 3, 2008 3:25 PM | Link to this

Vietvet, Tell your dang liberal girlies and boys to keep their legs closed and quit poking everything that moves there won’t be any unwanteds. If people quit acting like animals in heat and have some morals then you won’t be aborting millions of PEOPLE.

By paleincomparison

October 3, 2008 3:21 PM | Link to this

to Rosie - “I was GLAD to see Palin finally come out of the closet last night in support of lesbian partnerships.” Watch it again, she did not give the same answer that Joe Biden gave.

By Dalek

October 3, 2008 3:20 PM | Link to this

Dr Who: where I come from our genetic mutations served us just fine.

By VietVet

October 3, 2008 3:19 PM | Link to this

Buckeye in NC/Mark M-comment about your abortion statements. It’s like I told the right to lifers when polled- all of you right to lifers need to start a nation wide fund to take care of all the unwanted children that will be born when we do as you want in closing down all the abortion clinics. We will need you to take care of them to get your way.Funny,haven’t had any right to lifers want to put one dime down to start the unwanted kids fund.Either supply the needed money to raise these unwanted kids or clamp it shut. To answer the question- Biden is a better choice for VP. I don’t want a winking, cheerleader, goody two shoes, clueless wonder one step away from the presidency.Palin has no substance, is not ready for prime time and has reached her political limit as governor. She is not Washington material- too much of a naive soccer mom to survive in national politics.She was programmed to spout the McCain/Bush jibberish that has ruined the country for the last eight years.She is not even close to being qualified for VP and the way she presents herself,she never will be.She’s not dynamic nor smart enough to handle that high of a position in government.It should be obvious to most people.

By Glus

October 3, 2008 3:19 PM | Link to this

Continue in your mission to the good end, which is the rise of the state. Death to conservative values and independent thought. Death to individualism. You are all better off when we all share in the bounty of the state. Praise to the state.

By Dan

October 3, 2008 3:18 PM | Link to this

Raoul, I recommend if you like the status quo, by all means vote the way you feel best. I’m afraid your party is in the commode and probably will lose miserably. Unfortunately, the staunch Republican is always in denial and always has an excuse. I’m sure you will be rewarded for this innovative thinking. I’m not a Democrat, but I also do not care for narrow minded individuals that always feel they are right. I have voted both ways depending on the candidate, but closed minded party politics is probably out the door. The new age is beginning and I’d expect Ohio will eventually enter the millenium.

By Donkey

October 3, 2008 3:15 PM | Link to this

If elected I will pet puppies and make people that work pay for the lazy. I will change the way we do everything. History is nothing but a random trail of meaningless events. All change is good. McCain doesn’t like puppies and he thinks just because you work hard you should be able to enjoy what you made. I think everyone should be taken care of whether they like to hang out all night and sleep all day or they put in long hours and raise responsible children. If you’re lazy you better vote for me or they’ll put you to work and stomp your puppy. I’m Barak Obama and I approved this message.

By whites win again

October 3, 2008 3:14 PM | Link to this

McCain needs some new attack ads. Some that have gorillas running around in the background as he talks about Obama. Maybe some slogans calling him a knuckle-dragger, or using “monkey see, monkey do”.—-Don’t include any real content though. That would make things too confusing and diminish the real message. I and many others would appreciate an ad like that.

By Ned

October 3, 2008 3:13 PM | Link to this

Ok Buckey, just wanted to make sure I was right about you being a hypocrite. Can’t value life and not value life at the same time.

By Ecartman

October 3, 2008 3:12 PM | Link to this

To: SMDC-Your epiphany that Sarah is liked because “dumb is in in America.” Here is a tidbit you won’t here about on the MSM.The Colorado Democracy Alliance outlines a roster of “operatives” who worked for Democratic victory in the 2006 general election. The document outlines specific tasks for various members of the state’s liberal infrastructure, including a campaign to “EDUCATE THE IDIOTS,” assigned to the state’s AFL-CIO union. Among the operation’s intended targets: “minorities, GED’s, drop-outs.” So which party appeals to the “dumb?” If it weren’t for the dumb masses blindly following Obama to slaughter this wouldn’t even be a race!

By Dr. Who

October 3, 2008 3:12 PM | Link to this

The only way you can deal with genetic problems with a fetus is abortion. There are no treatments for genetic disorders at this time.

By again

October 3, 2008 3:05 PM | Link to this

It’s ovbious that this discussion has been taken over by a bunch of 15 year olds who have no idea what the world is really like. As the saying goes, the young are always democrats, when you grow up and have some sense you become a republican.

By Buckeye in NC

October 3, 2008 3:03 PM | Link to this

To all you baby killers I’m outta here!

By Buckeye in NC

October 3, 2008 3:02 PM | Link to this

Ned what I said was that I value a baby’s life more than that of a death row inmate. An innocent baby hasn’t made the decisions a death row inmate has. I see you don’t let facts get in the way of a good argument huh!

By SMDC

October 3, 2008 3:01 PM | Link to this

I had a moment of clarity during last night’s debate. As I watched Sarah Palin clumsily dodge and obfuscate, I came to understand for the first time the basis of her appeal: dumb is in in America! Mediocre is the new fabulous! Move over Britney and Paris, here comes Sarah! Seriously, given Palin’s one-note performance and gimmicky delivery, it’s no wonder right-wing media outlets are scrambling feverishly today to broaden the scope of their favorite epithet, “elitist”, and hurl it at any Democrat they can find. By these bastardized standards, any moderate or liberal who displays even an iota of competence is to be categorized as an elitist snob. I grew up on a farm without running water and didn’t get my degree until I was 60 but, since I was one of the 65%-70% of viewers of last night’s debate who rated Biden’s efforts as more presidential than Palin’s, according to Fox News and Rush Limbaugh, that makes me nothing more than an elitist. Mom and Dad would be so proud!

By Rosie

October 3, 2008 2:59 PM | Link to this

I was GLAD to see Palin finally come out of the closet last night in support of lesbian partnerships.

By genetic testing

October 3, 2008 2:58 PM | Link to this

Genetic testing is routinely done in women over 40 who become pregnant to try to identify problems with the fetus. Sometimes the problems can be dealt with before birth. It is not unusual for her to have had genetic testing.

By myopinion

October 3, 2008 2:57 PM | Link to this

Typical far right republican response.. you are “always right” and anyone that disagrees are wrong.. black/white thinker. No gray areas in life - pity that you cannot see that. Don’t you know if abortion became illegal the wannabe docs out there will take over with their own practices.. it has happened. Desperate people do desperate things.. OH.. I forgot..you con’t care. Enough space about you..

By oldertipp

October 3, 2008 2:54 PM | Link to this

she did a great job.nobama here, look at your dayton mayor follow her down the path of NO jobs in dayton same as nobama just a mouth nothing new just the same old ** wrapped in a different paper.

By Ned

October 3, 2008 2:52 PM | Link to this

So buckeye as you’ve said you support capital punishment in a post just a few minutes ago, should you go to jail for determining another human beings time of death?

By Buckeye in NC

October 3, 2008 2:46 PM | Link to this

Typical liberal response. You probably ignore the fact that abortion in a VAST majority of all instances is used for “convenience” not a medical necessity.You can argue all your points but killing a baby is WRONG. Anyone who wants to play God by determining the time of death, and I do mean death, of a living human should go to jail!

By whocalled??

October 3, 2008 2:45 PM | Link to this

Here are some headlines we can expect to see in the year 2010 if our society continues its glorious march to the People’s Revolution: Rev. Jeremiah Wright receives Nobel Peace Prize for trendsetting work in race relations San Francisco city ordinance: Public display of heterosexual affection (by US citizens) punishable by $1000 fine Michael Moore sweeps Oscars with his film Bin Laden Mon Amour President Michelle Obama paroles all non-white convicts in America; “We must begin healing process,” she declares Archbishop of Canterbury presides over first Muslim coronation ceremony Secretary of State Pelosi featured on new 9-dollar bill Supreme Court approves quotas for mentally-retarded applicants to PhD programs in the humanities Army announces new “fair trade” rules of engagement: Enemy must be given equal weapons before fight begins Mandatory 5-year prison term in Canada for Global Warming denial

By mark M

October 3, 2008 2:44 PM | Link to this

Palin clearly won the debate. A lot of topics were covered except abortion. The finest health and education systems, the fairest immigration laws, and the soundest economy do nothing for the child who never sees the light of day! It is a tragic irony that ‘pro-choice’ candidates have come to support homicide – the gravest injustice a society can tolerate – in the name of ‘social justice’. Abortion is the civil rights issue of out generation. Palin and McCain have the life issues right. Obama/Biden will expand abortions and taxpayers will pay. 1.3 million murdered children every yr in the US alone

By TO: PROUD TO BE WHITE

October 3, 2008 2:43 PM | Link to this

To whom ever, proud to be white is. You are so ignorant, you don’t even know how to spell BLACK!

By Ecartman

October 3, 2008 2:43 PM | Link to this

Still more crap on your sandwich: “Look, all you have to do is go down Union Street with me in Wilmington or go to Katie’s Restaurant or walk into Home Depot with me where I spend a lot of time…” Maybe Biden doesn’t get around in his neighborhood very often. Curtis Sliwa of WABC called around Wilmington this morning to find Katie’s Restaurant, only to discover that it went out of business — during the Clinton Administration

By Palin testing

October 3, 2008 2:39 PM | Link to this

Anyone care to enlighten us as to why a pregant woman has genetic testing if she wasn’t considering an abortion? Sounds like the news leaked out and she was stuck with the kid.

By myopinion

October 3, 2008 2:39 PM | Link to this

Dear Buckeye in NC.. abortion is not all about birthcontrol. How about these facts.. some girls get raped by their own reletives.. do they have to remain pregnant? How about the fetus is discovered to not have a brain (as we know a brain)… Extinuating circumstances - abortion may be the answer.. shouldn’t it be up to the one who is pregnant? How can you judge her? How can you tell her? Would you want to be that child of someone who will be instiutionalized until death? Please consider these facts when arguing right/wrong. Just think for a minute. I decided to carry my baby - without anyone’s best wishes.. glad I did but I believe in other people’s rights to make their own decisions, especially early in the pregnancy. I respect your right to disagree.. just promise to think one minute how a person could feel. Thank you

By Nick

October 3, 2008 2:37 PM | Link to this

Dale G., Susan Gonzalez, you may think that posting the same message multiple times is a neat way to strengthen your argument. No! it just makes you annoying.

By Buckeye in NC

October 3, 2008 2:34 PM | Link to this

Bakari what is it you are trying to say? Lay off the bottle if you are going to try to give your political views!

By Blah

October 3, 2008 2:32 PM | Link to this

At least one thing is clear. The whole country has moved back to the middle. Thank GOD. I was getting sick of the Republican ideology. It end-up being nothing but discrimination and blaming all our problems on some minority group. And, I’m white, by the way.

By Bakari

October 3, 2008 2:31 PM | Link to this

It is so simple obama 08&12 he has emerged as the only politican capable of leading the country back top at least repectablity

By Warpath93

October 3, 2008 2:31 PM | Link to this

Biden is a more polished politician, but is his problem…he is a good ‘ol boy and he won’t change things. Palen seems more like someone that could live down the street. I like her. I’m ready to vote. I think she would make waves in Washington. With Obama & Biden we will have more of the same. With McCain & Palin, we’ll have a better chance.

By Buckeye in NC

October 3, 2008 2:29 PM | Link to this

For all of you Democrats that think abortion is not a bad thing; Aren’t you glad your mothers didn’t feel that way!

By Leslie

October 3, 2008 2:29 PM | Link to this

One of Barack Obama’s staunchest supporters and prized campaigners and film biographers from the motion picture and television business has just been accused of union busting, according to a complaint filed Thursday with the National Labor Relations Board. Perry has refused to agree to a WGA contract that would give the writers health care benefits or pensions. One of Obama’s wealthy that will be paying the taxes instead of us. Wonder why kind of healthcare he will recommend for us?

By null

October 3, 2008 2:24 PM | Link to this

So if you associate with someone who is bad that makes you bad? I guess all those Catholics whose priest were found guilty of rape and molestation are bad people as well. You can only control yourself. What is the Obama camp doing? Last I read the Republicans were trying to stop voters from registering and voting at the same time. It can be spun to benefit anyone. If who someone knows or associates with is more important than your economy and the troops in Iraq then that is a great thing to base a vote on and by all means vote for McCain. If he wins we will see more of the same. With a Democratic government and a Republican President I bet a lot will get done.

By Against Obama

October 3, 2008 2:21 PM | Link to this

Let me just tell you this, personally. There is not much about McCain that stands out, but Obama is a farce. He is a facade for the liberal socialist agenda. If you like socialism go to Europe. He stands for everything that is wrong with Europe. Go over to Europe and live for awhile, then listen to the propaganda that Obama speaks. You will see it clearly. Sad fact is most people in this country are so star struck they don’t know a fake when they see it.

By Buckeye in NC

October 3, 2008 2:18 PM | Link to this

I am for McCain because; I want to think for myself and not have the gov’t do it for me. I want to take responsibility for my actions and not blame anyone else for my mistakes. I feel that corporate profits are not a bad thing. And mostly I value the life of an unborn baby more that that of a death row inmate!

By myopinion

October 3, 2008 2:14 PM | Link to this

Binden showed class - did not attack.. just gave facts/figures and a plan.. Palin - cliches’. and memorized info.. she did some cramming for sure. Yes - ladies I want a woman in the White House (not just as a wife) BUT.. she has to be the RIGHT woman (not far-right either). It grieves me to think that the Republicans think they can “win over” intelligent women by throwing someone that does not have the experience needed for that position… and believe we will bite. DON’T… hold out for the right woman. Hillary voters… get over it and look at the ISSUES important to you … it is a must!!! Don’t lose your woman’s voice for someone that is not good for “us”.

By resident

October 3, 2008 2:14 PM | Link to this

Acorn, Bill Ayers, Dr. Kahlid al-mansour, Frank Raines, Bernadine Dohrn. That pretty much sums it up. Do some reading. The reason I won’t vote for Obama has nothing to do with his race, it has to do with his backround and associates. However, not voting for him because he is black is no worse than voting for him just because he’s black. Check out the activities of early voting in Ohio. You will be shocked what the Obama camp is doing. We should be outraged.

By White Liberal

October 3, 2008 2:13 PM | Link to this

I am voting Democratic because I am not really worried about my inequality under the law. Affirmative action is a worthy program that has some regrettable parts, but overall makes me feel a lot better. Freedom and Equality are just relative terms, anyway. People hold up the Civil War volunteers and the Tuskegee Airmen as examples of patriots fighting for their ideals. But were they really fighting for the greater good, or were they just fooled into fighting on false government pretenses: did anyone see the shells hit Fort Sumter; Germany had nothing to do with Pearl Harbor. I think they were just self-interested guys who were lied to by their government. No more for me thank you, I’m voting Democratic.

By For Obama

October 3, 2008 2:09 PM | Link to this

Can anyone who is for McCain please tell me what it is that makes you want to vote for him? Am I missing something? I have looked at the issues and tried to block all the he said she said out. As far as policies go Obama’s vision is more in line with my own. I feel as though John McCain is saying whatever he can to win. Suspending his campaign last week was way weird to me. Especially when I looked at his voting record and he failed to vote on economy/budget in March. So please, anyone, enlighten me.

By Buckeye in NC

October 3, 2008 2:08 PM | Link to this

PTBW’s mother - what do you mean by “way to go republicans” a typical liberal statement. One person makes a fool of themselves and every liberal wants to crucify every conservative. I have an Idea why don’t we give him a million dollars for sensitivity training because I am sure his opinions are because he hasn’t received enough assistance from the gov’t! By the way not every biggot is white!

By PTBW's mother

October 3, 2008 1:57 PM | Link to this

Proud to be white should get a 5th grade education. Way to go republicans, you must be proud to have such a shinning example of humanity supporting your causes.

By R. K. Williams

October 3, 2008 1:53 PM | Link to this

To Proud to be White, The work Muslim only has one “s” in it. Maybe you shoudl stick to words that apply to you. I am thinking maybe “idiot” “whack-job” “waste of oxygen” “drunk” “trash” “unemployed”. Can you spell those correctly?

By boggs

October 3, 2008 1:52 PM | Link to this

To: Proud To Be White - if you were drowning and there was a white person who didn’t know how to swim and a black person who did, would you rather drown than have a black person jump in to save you?

By tonya

October 3, 2008 1:51 PM | Link to this

palin won!!

By Nickels from heaven

October 3, 2008 1:49 PM | Link to this

Glad you cleared that up. Liberal and literal should not be used in the same sentence. Oh darn, I just did it.

By proud to be white

October 3, 2008 1:47 PM | Link to this

Dantasha, Shaquika, latasha, daja, laquanta….what ever your name is..typical balck person who blames everything on racial stuff. my vote is with mccain/palin not with obama because he is black..there said and done. no one else will admit it but i dont want a black guy who is a musslim running my country…proud to be white

By Dale G.

October 3, 2008 1:46 PM | Link to this

I take my hat to Joe. He gave her enough rope to hang herself. If bologna were a trumpet she would be a brass band. Yeah will she wear camo when she is called to break a tie and will Joe six pack be there to hold her hand or the Sara-Cuda.(pink no less). I just have to stop now. My head is hurting from all the information I didn’t hear. As the B-Ball team would say GO SARA-CUDA. I like Ike

By IVAN

October 3, 2008 1:41 PM | Link to this

Greetings, my fellow comrades. In a short time, we will have accomplished our near term goals. You are all doing a wonderful job of humiliating the republicans and conservatives. Continue in your mission to the good end, which is the rise of the state. Death to conservative values and independent thought. Death to individualism. You are all better off when we all share in the bounty of the state. Praise to the state. Praise to community efforts. I will share the bounty with you all in January, 2009. WORKERS OF THE WORLD UNITE!

By Dale G.

October 3, 2008 1:40 PM | Link to this

I take my hat to Joe. He gave her enough rope to hang herself. If bologna were a trumpet she would be a brass band. Yeah will she wear camo when she is called to break a tie and will Joe six pack be there to hold her hand or the Sara-Cuda.(pink no less). I just have to stop now. My head is hurting from all the information I didn’t hear. As the B-Ball team would say GO SARA-CUDA. I like Ike

By HA!

October 3, 2008 1:38 PM | Link to this

Hey Fact Checker can you copy and paste in John McCain’s plan on anything?

By ???

October 3, 2008 1:35 PM | Link to this

I feel as though the pretenses for the war were false. Bush had a score to settle for his daddy. And I believe Obama voted no on the war. My husband has a very good education and job. He works for a govenment contractor who researches, studies, and builds items for the military. His paycheck comes from the earmarks McCain wants to cut. So who loses? We do, my kids do, the soldiers who are fighting across the world, and their parents, wives, husbands, children, grandchildren. Everyone has a different situation and for someone to say “If you want money in the bank and food on the table, don’t take it out of my hard-earned. You need to get control over your life and keep the government out.” That is ludicrous. I put myself through college, if something would have happened to my husband I would have had to quit school, work 2 jobs to pay for daycare and living expenses. Everyone’s situation is different. And it’s hard to keep the government out when they take almost have your paycheck. out of a 2000.00 bonus only 1200 was brought home. I wish I could keep the government out. Raoul you are one of the lucky ones. You are an oddity. I hope you are never faced with the situation Dan is or the other people who are barely getting by. Not everyone is privileged enough to not have to worry about choosing between gas and food. Do you have kids, or are you married?

By null

October 3, 2008 1:35 PM | Link to this

Everyone expected Palin to fail but she didn’t. She also didn’t stray from her well rehearsed subject matter. While Biden was out campaigning and giving interviews, Palin was at debate boot camp with the best coaches in the world. She frequently avoided the question asked & confidently veered to one of her well rehearsed answers in a folksy way, with her Fargo accent, throwing in a few winks for good measure (as if her sex appeal would override the critical answers needed). Palin has her own Jihad, is on a mission, just as Cheney was intent on invading Iraq. .A vote for McCain is a vote for McSame. We’re a heartbeat away from becoming United States of China

By FixNews

October 3, 2008 1:23 PM | Link to this

Palin clearly won the debate. George Bush is the greatest president of all time. We are winning the occupation of Iraq. The Easter Bunny is real.

By Obama Fan

October 3, 2008 1:20 PM | Link to this

yes- I still want my wooden nickel. Anything is better than John McCain. By the way- I was not taking about the wooden nickel in the sense that that you think. I was being liberal. I mean literal.

By Another Bob

October 3, 2008 1:20 PM | Link to this

Considering how low the bar was set, I suppose the scripted responses did no harm, but nor did they address either the questions asked or her lack of fitness for the office (can’t name a magazine she’s read or a Supreme Court case she disagrees with other than Roe v Wade? Come on.) The cuteness is calculated. Every rehearsed sentence she utters sounds like she’s running for Miss America, not VP. She is an irresponsible choice and it reflects very poorly on McCain.

By Bob

October 3, 2008 1:19 PM | Link to this

Considering how low the bar was set, I suppose the scripted responses did no harm, but nor did they address either the questions asked or her lack of fitness for the office (can’t name a magazine she’s read or a Supreme Court case she disagrees with other than Roe v Wade? Come on.) The cuteness is calculated. Every rehearsed sentence she utters sounds like she’s running for Miss America, not VP. She is an irresponsible choice and it reflects very poorly on McCain.

By Fact Checker

October 3, 2008 1:18 PM | Link to this

Joe Biden’s 15 Lies TAX VOTE: Biden said McCain voted ?the exact same way? as Obama to increase taxes on Americans earning just $42,000, but McCain DID NOT VOTE THAT WAY. AHMEDINIJAD MEETING: Joe Biden lied when he said that Barack Obama never said that he would sit down unconditionally with Mahmoud Ahmedinijad of Iran. Barack Obama did say specifically, and Joe Biden attacked him for it. OFFSHORE OIL DRILLING: Biden said, Drill we must.'' But Biden has opposed offshore drilling and even compared offshore drilling to raping the Outer Continental Shelf. TROOP FUNDING: Joe Biden lied when he indicated that John McCain and Barack Obama voted the same way against funding the troops in the field. John McCain opposed a bill that included a timeline, that the President of the United States had already said he would veto regardless of it's passage. OPPOSING CLEAN COAL: Biden says he's always been for clean coal, but he just told a voter that he is against clean coal and any new coal plants in America and has a record of voting against clean coal and coal in the U.S. Senate. ALERNATIVE ENERGY VOTES: According to FactCheck.org, Biden is exaggerating and overstating John McCain's record voting for alternative energy when he says he voted against it 23 times. HEALTH INSURANCE: Biden falsely said McCain will raise taxes on people's health insurance coverage they get a tax credit to offset any tax hike. Independent fact checkers have confirmed this attack is false. OIL TAXES: Biden falsely said Palin supported a windfall profits tax in Alaska ? she reformed the state tax and revenue system, it's not a windfall profits tax. AFGHANISTAN / GEN. MCKIERNAN COMMENTS: Biden said that top military commander in Iraq said the principles of the surge could not be applied to Afghanistan, but the commander of NATO's International Security Assistance Force Gen. David D. McKiernan said that there were principles of the surge strategy, including working with tribes, that could be applied in Afghanistan. REGULATION: Biden falsely said McCain weakened regulation he actually called for more regulation on Fannie and Freddie. IRAQ: When Joe Biden lied when he said that John McCain wasdead wrong on Iraq”, because Joe Biden shared the same vote to authorize the war and differed on the surge strategy where they John McCain has been proven right. TAX INCREASES: Biden said Americans earning less than $250,000 wouldn’t see higher taxes, but the Obama-Biden tax plan would raise taxes on individuals making $200,000 or more. BAILOUT: Biden said the economic rescue legislation matches the four principles that Obama laid out, but in reality it doesn’t meet two of the four principles that Obama outlined on Sept. 19, which were that it include an emergency economic stimulus package, and that it be part of part of a globally coordinated effort with our partners in the G-20. REAGAN TAX RATES: Biden is wrong in saying that under Obama, Americans won’t pay any more in taxes then they did under Reagan. RESOLUTION ON IRAQ WAR: Biden said he only voted to force UN to participate in removing Saddam Hussein. That is a lie. The resolution he voted yes on was to invade Iraq with military force.

By WHAT?

October 3, 2008 1:10 PM | Link to this

Dantasha - you have got to be kidding!! I will be voting to McCain/Palin and it has nothing to do with Race, NOTHING. Your comment is ignorant.

By Dantasha Patterson

October 3, 2008 1:07 PM | Link to this

Actually please disregard my post. I know nobody “aksed” my opinion anyway, and since I contribute nothing to society, I really don’t even feel like I should have a right to vote. Sorry for bothering everyone. I have to run, my food stamps arrived and it be time go do some shopping.

By Dantasha Patterson

October 3, 2008 12:58 PM | Link to this

A vote for McCain/Palin is a vote against black Americans. if you do not vote for Obama you are a racist. I also want to thank the DDN for their support of Obama and other key Democrats. With your help and support, we will bring CHANGE and HOPE back to America.

By Robert

October 3, 2008 12:53 PM | Link to this

Alex, Our starting the war in Iraq has already given our country a bad name. We were wrong and now we’re paying the price.

By Say what?

October 3, 2008 12:42 PM | Link to this

It’s not nice to say your 17 year old daughter is easy. That’s just wrong, or are you saying it’s not easy?

By Win

October 3, 2008 12:41 PM | Link to this

@ Sarah Palin epic.

By School time

October 3, 2008 12:38 PM | Link to this

The adage “Wooden nickel” implies that something is not genuine. It is only commerative in nature. Though there were wooden nickels issued after the “Great Depression”, coincidentally, it means something is not equal to the value it projects. In otherwards, it’s sort of like saying…You are scared so you’ll accept anything for fear you’ll have nothing. That is how Hitler rose up. Still want your wooden nickel?

By Sarah Palin

October 3, 2008 12:36 PM | Link to this

Hey, I found out last night that debating can be as easy as, well, my 17 year old daughter. You betcha!!!!!

By Raoul

October 3, 2008 12:36 PM | Link to this

Dan, the Democrat’s voted to go to war in Iraq, then tried to lose it by admitting defeat to hang it all on Bush. Saddam Hussein had WMD’s, used them, and after the Gulf War never came clean what he did or did not have. Bill Clinton gave Halliburton no-bid contracts. If you are making minimum wage, why should we make your employer pay you more? Democrats are in power now in Dayton and Ohio; and the unemployment rate reflects it. If corporations had to pay more in taxes, they would charge you more for gas and food, which you already apparantly can’t afford. If you are concerned about Dayton, look who the Mayor is and who controls the local government. If you want money in the bank and food on the table, don’t take it out of my hard-earned. You need to get control over your life and keep the government out. And don’t let those predatory lenders force you into buying a home you can’t afford, because I don’t want to bail you out. So yes, by all means, vote Republican. Please.

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